A return to civility

[6thGen]

6th Gen, Have you been reading the Bell Curve again?

That book was the first thing I thought of when I posted the picture of the bell curve. Despite the controversy, it brought the discussion to the table.

 

[6thGen]

Sorry that citing the professional opinion of someone with 30 years experience in the field was too anecdotal for you! I figured you'd listen to her since she was white, born in the US, raised by 2 parents, and had a college education.

I measure people's intelligence by how well they function in all areas of their life and in how they treat their fellow human beings, especially those less fortunate than themselves.

Her opinion was not what was anecdotal, your previous posts were. I don't consider race, country of origin, or number of parents when reading an argument (I do consider education). The fact that I recognize that there are differences among the races, intelligence levels and classes is a different story.

 

[scooterbug44]

Ethnic/Race relations - as soon as you smile and say hello, you break down barriers and build bridges. During WWII, they had to move soldiers from the front lines because after playing football during a ceasefire they wouldn't shoot each other. One of the few intelligent statements I have heard about war is that "it will stop when the two sides realize they love their children more than they hate each other". Focus on the positive instead of the negative and only take offense when people MEAN to be offensive.

6th Gen - you have completely missed the point of this thread.

 

[Bob]

IQ tests are completely accurate and have no bias. :roll:

Civility however, can easily be judged, especially on an internet forum.

No way

 

[6thGen]

6th Gen - you have completely missed the point of this thread.

Do you define patronizing as civil?

 

[elgordoboy]

So I'll ask you, do you have a better method to measure intelligence, other than anecdotal, Ferris Bueller evidence?

One can't say that IQ tests are faulty without putting forward an alternative?

 

[Mango]

So I'll ask you, do you have a better method to measure intelligence, other than anecdotal, Ferris Bueller evidence?

I am curious 6thgen, you have a hypothesis that intelligence/race equates into civility somehow, but I've yet to see you show a solid source/survey justifying such. :roll: Bueller?,..... Bueller?..... Bueller?

 

[DuneAHH]

I am curious 6thgen, you have a hypothesis that intelligence/race equates into civility somehow, but I've yet to see you show a solid source/survey justifying such. :roll: Bueller?,..... Bueller?..... Bueller?

 

[6thGen]

One can't say that IQ tests are faulty without putting forward an alternative?

No, but Bob stated "Beyond childhood, the only folks likely to change are by introspection, and very little introspection is going on with IQs south of 100."

If IQ tests are faulty, which is not irrefutable, how should we measure IQs?

 

[6thGen]

I am curious 6thgen, you have a hypothesis that intelligence/race equates into civility somehow, but I've yet to see you show a solid source/survey justifying such. :roll: Bueller?,..... Bueller?..... Bueller?

No, I said that upbringing is more responsible than IQ. Bob said it was IQ. I was refuting this statement by scooterbug "Yes, I do! There are scientifically quantifiable differences between the sexes and different races. These do not however, effect one's overall intelligence or ability." And it wasn't a hypothesis, it was a fact. Until someone comes up with a better way to measure IQ, all we have is what is the established and accepted tool.