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Yes both parties in Congress were presented the evidence gathered by Bush, then voted to give Bush what he asked for. He asked for a threat to go to war. The vote wasn't for a declaration of war, but was to give Bush the ability to threaten Iraq into compliance. He stated he wanted "teeth" in his warning to Saddam in regards to UN resolutions being carried out. He said we needed to show a strong united front to get him to comply. Congress was told it was the threat of force being approved by them that would keep us safe.

He promised force wasn't the first option, but the very last one and that he would exhaust all means before he took Americans to war. UN inspecters were on the ground in Iraq. Saddam was contained and no new threat against us had occured when Bush took his power, given by Congress as a threat, into actual force.

Make no mistake, Saddam was nasty evil. But if he had the WMD ready that Bush told us we were in immediate danger of, why didn't he use them on us when we invaded? Using that same logic Bush used, we should have already invaded Korea and Iran because they actually do have the ability that Saddam did not

Now everyone has a new playing field. All manner of terrorist groups can now freely move in and around Irag. This was not possible before we removed Saddam, he didn't mind them hating us, but he was in charge. These people can kill our young people in one location and not have to burden themselves with stealing our planes and going far from home. Now I just realized I'm not in the right place to post this. I appear lost. See we all have this directional thing and get turned around. March 2003-should we stay on Osama bin Laden in Afganistan or invade Irag :idontno:
 
I hate fuzzy kittens!!! If you like fuzzy kittens, you should die!!!:pissed:

Yeah, well if a fuzzy kitten came with a check for $485,000 and a pen, you take both and sell your house in a heartbeat.

Hypocrite.
 
Yes both parties in Congress were presented the evidence gathered by Bush, then voted to give Bush what he asked for. He asked for a threat to go to war. The vote wasn't for a declaration of war, but was to give Bush the ability to threaten Iraq into compliance. He stated he wanted "teeth" in his warning to Saddam in regards to UN resolutions being carried out. He said we needed to show a strong united front to get him to comply. Congress was told it was the threat of force being approved by them that would keep us safe.

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This is the same set of Congressional Comedians who <insert appropriate: failed to see, let slide by, were on drugs and missed> that nasty little bill that will lessen our privacy (of which we have none), remove our ability to travel anonymously (of which we have little anyway) and place us, once and for all, in a "Let me see your papers, please" military styled society. Anyone know the name of this legislative gem?

You, in the back, with your hand between your knees......Nooooo, it is not the Masturbation Act of 2004.

The Real Identity Card Act of 2006.

Why did they sneak, er, place this multi-billion $$$$ privacy-raper in the back sections of a 750 pg. funding bill for the Iraq shootemup?

To make sure it drew full attention, of course. :shock:
 
This is the same set of Congressional Comedians who <insert appropriate: failed to see, let slide by, were on drugs and missed> that nasty little bill that will lessen our privacy (of which we have none), remove our ability to travel anonymously (of which we have little anyway) and place us, once and for all, in a "Let me see your papers, please" military styled society. Anyone know the name of this legislative gem?

You, in the back, with your hand between your knees......Nooooo, it is not the Masturbation Act of 2004.

The Real Identity Card Act of 2006.

Why did they sneak, er, place this multi-billion $$$$ privacy-raper in the back sections of a 750 pg. funding bill for the Iraq shootemup?

To make sure it drew full attention, of course. :shock:
I agree Sheep. Everyone should be able to travel anonymously. What harm could possibly come of that?? Its not like there are people who would want to harm us out there.
 
I agree Sheep. Everyone should be able to travel anonymously. What harm could possibly come of that?? Its not like there are people who would want to harm us out there.
Correct and look at the decades we traveled anonymously with nothing ill to show for it!
 
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Now here is a real man who calls Texas home:

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That your old enough to vote? :idontno: Who'd of thought. :razz:
 
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