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Bill Clinton Comes To Destin

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For me it wasn't the fact that Clinton cheated - I strongly dissapprove of infidelity and adultery, but it's between him and his wife - it was the manner in which it was done & how he acted after it was discovered.

65% cheat - so sad! Might be one reason why 50% of marriages end in divorce!
 
For me it wasn't the fact that Clinton cheated - I strongly dissapprove of infidelity and adultery, but it's between him and his wife - it was the manner in which it was done & how he acted after it was discovered.

65% cheat - so sad! Might be one reason why 50% of marriages end in divorce!

That figure sounded way too high, so I had to look it up.
I wasn't surprised to see that the figures for those that committed adultery were a lot lower than 65%. ;-)

MSNBC Survey
 
Mclean's Magazine

"...First, Morris and Clinton agreed, they should conduct a poll to find out whether Americans were prepared to forgive their President. The answer came back no. And so Clinton did not fess up, but instead denied all and sent his supporters out to attack those who doubted him. Only last week, backed into a legal corner by his relentless foe, special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, did he finally admit publicly that he had had an "inappropriate" relationship with the young intern and say he was sorry - sort of.


The speech - perhaps the most important four minutes and seven seconds of Clinton's political life - was bound to be a turning point. Before he gave it, his advisers had clearly hoped that, as he had done so often, he would seize the moment and turn looming disaster into an opportunity for redemption. Americans, went their mantra, are a forgiving people. Given the chance, they wanted nothing more than an end to the appalling spectacle of a President tarnished by constant chatter about "sex acts" steps from the Oval Office, and of "genetic material" indiscreetly left on a dress.

...The open questioning of Clinton's motives after last week's missile strikes against Sudan and Afghanistan emphasized just how much his credibility has suffered. As presidential historian Robert Dallek of Boston University put it in an interview: "For presidents, trust is the coin of the realm. You need it to have any credibility, and how can you create a groundswell in the country or the Congress for anything if you have no credibility?" With Clinton's trustworthiness so badly undermined, concluded Dallek, "Frankly, I think he is largely crippled now."

The President's decision to tell his story to the grand jury came on July 29 - the day after Lewinsky cut her deal to testify in return for immunity from prosecution. But it was only in the few days leading up to his appearance that he apparently came to grips with exactly what he would say - to the jury, to the public, to his daughter, Chelsea, and to his wife. From the moment the scandal erupted in late January, Hillary Clinton has been crucial to her husband's survival. She stood beside him in the Roosevelt Room of the White House as he wagged his finger at the TV cameras and defiantly, unambiguously declared: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky...."
 
That figure sounded way too high, so I had to look it up.
I wasn't surprised to see that the figures for those that committed adultery were a lot lower than 65%. ;-)

MSNBC Survey

Maybe that was possibly the french!! I could not name the source in the US but what I do seem to recall was that it was higher than 50% IF one included all those who have also divorced because of an affair (have no idea if emotional infidelity is considered cheating!)

Who knows - all I do know is that a ton of people cheat and then will be very vocal about how, in their lives it is OK (because they are really really sorry and will never do it again and God forgives them!!!!) but heaven forbid a POLITICIAN (ohhh ahhhh - bad!!!!)should cheat! The circus around Clinton, the uproar and sanctimonious crap coming out of the mouths of those looking to crucify him was so hypocritical.....

Having said that I do not think it was Ok that Clinton lied to the American people (even if it was only about sex!) - but I am sure no-one on this Board cares to hear much about what I think about the lies Bush has told (and I call his deliberate misleading or misrepresentation of info LYING!).

I hope someone on this Board will go see Clinton spaek and can report back!
 
I'm with you Chickpea relative to not caring one bit about what Clinton did personally while in office to be frank.

IMHO, society holds figureheads to such high esteem and the pressure must be insurmountable to them. I think also people forget that quite a few figureheads were born and bred (ie; monarchs) for these positions.
They have certain expectations of who they should marry and it almost becomes a business relationship, not one borne out of true and everlasting love.

I recall reading a book about Hillary Clinton many moons ago, and it stated that when she met Bill during Law school, that she told her friends he would be President one day. Did they form a partnership based purely on political gain and power? That's they're business.

I wonder how many people would elect a man or woman lets say for President that were a consummate bachelor or bachelorette?
 
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So how many people lie while under oath during a trial deposition? Is there some unsubstantiated survey on that too?

Had I done what he did in the office with an employee subordinate; I would have been fired in less than 24 hours.
 
I'm with you Chickpea relative to not caring one bit about what Clinton did personally while in office to be frank.

IMHO, society holds figureheads to such high esteem and the pressure must be insurmountable to them. I think also people forget that quite a few figureheads were born and bred (ie; monarchs) for these positions.
They have certain expectations of who they should marry and it almost becomes a business relationship, not one borne out of true and everlasting love.

I recall reading a book about Hillary Clinton many moons ago, and it stated that when she met Bill during Law school, that she told her friends he would be President one day. Did they form a partnership based purely on political gain and power? That's they're business.

I wonder how many people would elect a man or woman lets say for President that were a consummate bachelor or bachelorette?

I have no doubt their's is a relationship of convenience and business at this point (IMHO!!) - in a normal world devoid of political ambition why in the hell would she ever put up with his nonsense!
 
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