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Lake View Too
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We don’t give health insurance to illegals free. Prove it.
Dennyk
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https://www.ppic.org/publication/he...overage-and-care-for-undocumented-immigrants/
Here you go. California does it already. Did you see during the Dems debates, when asked if they would give illegals health care. Everyone of them raised their hand. Sorry our veterans and poor need it.
PoppaJ
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I’m a veteran and I have healthcare. It’s your party that doesn’t want the poor to have heathcare and trump is stealing money from the military to build the wall he told you Mexico would pay for.
Dennyk
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I'm glad you're one of the lucky ones that has had good health care. Let's get more veterans in that same boat. Well just have to agree to disagree on your other comments.
PoppaJ
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Let’s get healthcare for all Americans.
Leader of the Banned
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Former Trump Organization executive says she expects President Trump will resign - CNN
I don't know if agree on this predicted outcome, but I do think, no matter what anyone says, that Trump will be devastated by an impeachment, even without removal from office. By the same token, if for nothing else other than our posterity, impeachment is a moral imperative, even without removal. I say that acknowledging the possibility of negative consequences such as losing the house and of course Trump's reelection. The man needs an asterisk beside his name in order strike a blow against his fevered ego, and to send a message to our future nation that this man is not a good person, and that our country should strive to elect officials who truly espouse American values.
I don't know if agree on this predicted outcome, but I do think, no matter what anyone says, that Trump will be devastated by an impeachment, even without removal from office. By the same token, if for nothing else other than our posterity, impeachment is a moral imperative, even without removal. I say that acknowledging the possibility of negative consequences such as losing the house and of course Trump's reelection. The man needs an asterisk beside his name in order strike a blow against his fevered ego, and to send a message to our future nation that this man is not a good person, and that our country should strive to elect officials who truly espouse American values.
Leader of the Banned
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Another thing. If Trump is impeached but not removed, that is no way vindication. It in no way means he is "innocent" or "not guilty". Just think about it. Was Bill Clinton vindicated? Did he not lie to a jury? Were there legitimate grounds for impeachment? Of course there were, it's just that there were enough Senators who felt it wasn't serious enough for removal based on the circumstances. Now we have a situation where there are an abundance of reasons for impeachment, and lot of Republican Senators know deep in their heart that removal is the only moral choice. They are going to have to go against their consciences in order to preserve their political careers for a man who would s**t on them at moment's notice for political convenience.
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