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[Leader of the Banned]

You can always tell when Drifter is triggered, as much as he tries to hide it.

 

[FdxUsmc]

And all this time, the Trumpian inspired Ukraine fake news has had zero effect on Biden's poll numbers.

Oh really, how’s Biden’s fundraising going?

 

[Lake View Too]

Again, what's your point? It's just a statement of truth. He had less leverage while in the middle of re-election. Stop living in the past.

 

[Lake View Too]

You are the king/queen of the fake memes, or is that your alter ego "Leader"? If you watch the video I posted, you will HEAR these same words coming out of Hunter's Daddy. If you watch the video, it wont hurt you; it's called the truth.

He was working for the US government when he said that. He was trying to remove a prosecutor that was NOT prosecuting corruption.

 

[Lake View Too]

Oh really, how’s Biden’s fundraising going?

This is not about Biden, no matter how hard you try to deflect.

 

[Emerald Drifter]

As usual you refuse or simply can't give a straight answer. Get back to us when you have something beyond wishful thinking.

So you are a moderator of sowal, or just the "Let's Get Trump" thread? Other people on this thread had to endure two years of your wishful thinking regarding Captain Mueller saving the world from Trump. It was wishful thinking by you on full display..

 

[FdxUsmc]

This is not about Biden, no matter how hard you try to deflect.

The corruption in Ukraine and 2016 election interference might be about Biden. We don’t know yet. Hopefully, we find out one way or the other. Durham’s DOJ investigation should shed some light on it.

 

[PoppaJ]

In February 2015, Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, and promised critics of his country’s anti-corruption efforts at home, in the US, and at the International Monetary Fund (IMF) that a clean-up was on the way. And he claimed Burisma was in his sights.

But Shokin’s deputy, Vitaly Kasko, told Bloomberg that the promise was empty rhetoric. According to Kasko, their office did nothing to pursue its investigation into Zlochevsky throughout 2015, and the office was ineffective at reining in corruption generally, leading him to resign in frustration.

Shokin has disputed Kasko’s narrative, but the manner in which he was running his office also concerned the US ambassador to Ukraine, who said publicly in September 2015 that the office was “subverting” the UK’s investigation.

Concern at the embassy mounted, and by 2016, officials there began suggesting the Obama administration push for the prosecutor general’s ouster. In particular, the embassy suggested that $1 billion in loan guarantees the country hoped to receive from the US in order to stay solvent should be tied to a tougher anti-corruption strategy that involved removing officials seen as blocking progress, namely Shokin.

It wasn’t just the US that wanted Shokin gone, either — many other Western European officials, including the IMF’s then-managing director Christine Lagarde, also insisted Ukraine was doing far too little about corruption.

So in March 2016, Biden says he told the Ukrainian government that their loan guarantees would be cut off unless they removed Shokin. He told the story at a session at the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018.

I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours,” Biden told his audience. “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’”

The former vice president said after the threat, “Well, son of a b**ch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”

But though Biden may have taken credit for it, this was hardly his unique idea. “Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked,” Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, told the Wall Street Journal. “The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD, everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden.”

The people of Ukraine wanted Shokin gone as well, and demonstrated for his removal around the time of Biden’s threat. Shortly after that demonstration, Shokin was dismissed.

The facts behind Trump’s bogus accusations about Biden and Ukraine

 

[Lake View Too]

trump - Nov. 2016


Mick Mulvaney - Oct. 2019

A commentator on NPR put it rather well on the Doral Debacle: If that deal had gone through, Trump would have been the buyer and the seller of that transaction. He would have been in the situation of asking any price whatsoever, and the Federal government would be obligated to pay it. Let that sink in.

 

[Emerald Drifter]

You can always tell when Drifter is triggered, as much as he tries to hide it.

It's not that I'm triggered,its just so entertaining, and easy, to do simple searches to find the stuff your team is wishing, hoping to hang Trump with has been committed even worse by your people.