dbuck
Beach Fanatic
What good does it do to skewer Bush now, as you said Bush is a lame duck. Unfortunately we can't unwind the clock. I want to look forward and find answers for the future, this is what the next election will be about for me.
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Bush is an idiot
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What good does it do to skewer Bush now, as you said Bush is a lame duck. Unfortunately we can't unwind the clock. I want to look forward and find answers for the future, this is what the next election will be about for me.
Chickpea
Beach Fanatic
Fine, fine, fine... I surrender as it is getting a little too warm for a friendly bulletin board among neighbors...like I said before, maybe we can have a lively debate over some PBR at Amore. See, I can be culturally sensitive and surrender like a Frenchman
Skunkape,
Anytime although I have no idea what a PBR is......but I love Amore!!
Nice to see that you crack yourself up over surrender joke
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30A Skunkape
Skunky
Skunkape,
Anytime although I have no idea what a PBR is......but I love Amore!!
Nice to see that you crack yourself up over surrender joke
Pabst Blue Ribbon!
Chickpea
Beach Fanatic
Pabst Blue Ribbon!
Only wine for this chick......
30A Skunkape
Skunky
me too.
you know, I'm happy to see Skunkape (dr. mofo, mr small box) chime in with his right wing / conservative political beliefs. we tend to hear a lot more from sowallers who are independent or left-leaning. we can't have any real discussion without hearing from more sides of the political spectrum.
so, I'm just saying that its good to hear really honest discussion going on here. we all stand to learn something from it. i.e., now chickpea knows what PBR is (but do not try it! stick with the vino!).
kathydwells
Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
I am just happy that I live in a country where I can say out loud what I believe in. Be it the fact that I think the President of my country is an idiot or not. That I have the right as a citizen to choose my own religion without being told what I am going to believe. That I can speak out against my country without the fear of being hung, be-headed, or placed in front of a firing squad. I lived in Tehran, Iran for 3 years. I know the fear that those people had trying to voice their disdain for the leaders of their country. It sure made me appreciate the good 'ole U.S. of A more.
Mango
SoWal Insider
I thought the current thinking was we should have left Saddam in power because he provided stability
Tootsie-We CAN'T LOSE IN IRAQ! We must find the will to achieve stabilty there. It is going to be bloody, violent and ugly, but I assure you, it will be much more so if we just shrug our shoulders, say "screw it" and withdraw.
Your father's opinion on what is needed in the Middle East may be spot on.
Last Friday, a 25 year old Iraqi woman won the Arab version of American Idol. They are calling her the Princess of Mesopatamia, because she has accomplished what they claim the American Soldiers haven't been able to, and that was to bring all Iraqi's together for a cause.
The Iraqi people (obviously not able to watch these types of shows (aired in Lebanon) under Saddams rule, since satelitte dishes were not permitted) were all banding together to watch her progress on the show.
No one cared what religion she was, or even that she was half Moroccan, spoke English very well, and sang songs in 4 languages, was wearing an evening gown, and cosmetics, but yet people all were watching together in the streets as well and celebrating when she won (they did shoot guns in celebration. Someone should give them some fireworks) She grabbed the Iraqi flag and knelt down crying.
Now if a young girl can bring a country together, imagine what an Iraqi leader the likes of Mandela or Ghandi could possibly accomplish?
I found it very interesting to see how these violently oppressed people, and a country with such religious warfare, reacted to this event.
Although I know the politics of all this is much more complicated, she made it look a lot less so.
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very good point, mangy. I don't understand why we could think that war could ever stabilize any middle eastern country. what made us think that we needed to change this particular society for the better, or that we could? I truly hope Iraqi people will achieve freedom and peace in their nation - all people deserve this. But, can we achieve this for them, or must they do this for themselves? I just don't know.
TripleB
Beach Fanatic
More food for thought....how is it that the Iraqi people can now see her performance? Maybe the American soldiers derserve a little credit.