florida girl
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Heard on CNN this morning that if elected, Obama would have the troops out of Iraq by 2013, and Clinton by the end of her term. What??? What about all the stink to get them out now?
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Clinton and Obama Iraq views
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July 30, 2007;
Mrs. Clinton has said she would vote for a proposed Democratic resolution on Iraq now being debated on the floor of the Senate, which sets a goal of withdrawing combat forces by March 31, 2008. Asked if her plan was consistent with the resolution, Mrs. Clinton and her advisers said it was, noting that the resolution also called for ?a limited number? of troops to stay in Iraq to protect the American Embassy and other personnel, train and equip Iraqi forces, and conduct ?targeted counterterrorism operations.?
August 2007;
Obama - "When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won," he told an audience at the Woodrow Wilson Center in the District. He added, "The first step must be to get off the wrong battlefield in Iraq and take the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."
Obama's warning to Musharraf drew sharp criticism from several of his rivals for the Democratic nomination, but not from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.).
Obama delivered a biting critique of President Bush's conduct of the war in Iraq and of the administration's overall strategy for combating terrorism, while seeking to reassure Americans that his long-stated opposition to the Iraq war would not compromise his commitment to defending the country from the threat of Islamic extremists.
Mrs. Clinton has said she would vote for a proposed Democratic resolution on Iraq now being debated on the floor of the Senate, which sets a goal of withdrawing combat forces by March 31, 2008. Asked if her plan was consistent with the resolution, Mrs. Clinton and her advisers said it was, noting that the resolution also called for ?a limited number? of troops to stay in Iraq to protect the American Embassy and other personnel, train and equip Iraqi forces, and conduct ?targeted counterterrorism operations.?
August 2007;
Obama - "When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won," he told an audience at the Woodrow Wilson Center in the District. He added, "The first step must be to get off the wrong battlefield in Iraq and take the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."
Obama's warning to Musharraf drew sharp criticism from several of his rivals for the Democratic nomination, but not from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.).
Obama delivered a biting critique of President Bush's conduct of the war in Iraq and of the administration's overall strategy for combating terrorism, while seeking to reassure Americans that his long-stated opposition to the Iraq war would not compromise his commitment to defending the country from the threat of Islamic extremists.
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Heard on CNN this morning that if elected, Obama would have the troops out of Iraq by 2013, and Clinton by the end of her term. What??? What about all the stink to get them out now?
We are not leaving Iraq anytime soon.
florida girl
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What about all the antiwar protestors who support either Clinton or Obama? Or are they behind someone else?
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The context of the question in the debate by Tim Russert is "will you pledge to have all troops out of Iraq by 2013" His point was will it happen before your first term is over. He didn't make them agree to anything earlier so they didn't. The quote is a little misleading.
Kucinich said he would have them out by Sept 2007 before they reminded him it was Sept 2007 :roll:
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What are they going to do, vote for Rudy?
Fuhgetaboutit. They will promise anything to get elected;they know they can't withdraw troops anytime soon.Agreed
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In October 1969 the Shah of Iran asked the U.S. to purchase more Iranian oil as a way to boost his revenues. But the Shah's request was rejected because, as an assistant to then President Nixon explained, "a substantial portion of the profits from these purchases would go to non-American companies if Iranian oil were sought," while if Saudi oil were purchased, the U.S. share would be larger
florida girl
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Logic doesn't seem to be a player anywhere with the protestors, I guess they'll follow the next candidate that will promise them immediate withdrawal? Or perhaps when it comes time to vote, the majority isn't really of that tenor?
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