seacrestkristi
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Thank you too. 
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Universal Healthcare...an idea whose time has come??
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scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Not allowing companies to pay off our elected representatives is unconsitutional?
Lobbying, cronyism, soft money, subverting the system, no matter what you call it, it's not an unalienable right!
Give it a rest and enjoy the 4th!
Lobbying, cronyism, soft money, subverting the system, no matter what you call it, it's not an unalienable right!
Give it a rest and enjoy the 4th!
6thGen
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Pay off? As long as there is full disclosure, I don't see the problem. If voters have their attention drawn to it, which elections guarantee, they have their choice to replace the elected official. Limiting individuals rights to address their government would be unconstitutional.
scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Well, I do! It's supposed to be one person, one vote, not one vote per $X! Lobbying is out of control and there is most certainly not full disclosure. McCain/Feingold have the right idea on campaign finance reform!
Conflict of interest laws/regulations do not violate the constitution. They do not prevent people from voting, speaking freely, running for office, using government services or facilities, or violate anyone's "rights".
Violating the spirit/and of letter of the law is not a constitutional right. If anything, subverting the election & law making processes and receiving unequal representation is unconstitutional.
6thGen
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First, how has McCain-Feingold helped? Seems that Soros didn't have a problem getting around it.
And here is the First Amendment. I've bolded the part that addresses it, since you'd probably miss it.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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scooterbug44
SoWal Expert
Conflict of interest laws do not prevent people from petitioning or accessing the government. If they truly believe in a company, product, idea, or are for/against a law, they can petition their government, peacefully protest, or speak out against it.
Making a profit off it is something different!
What they prevent is people being paid for their influence and political or familial connections.
Making a profit off it is something different!
What they prevent is people being paid for their influence and political or familial connections.
seacrestkristi
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BTW, did you get your $50 ear drops yet, Chickpea? ;-) Hope its better soon. 
6thGen
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If the ?conflict of interest law? prevents individuals from petitioning their government, which you?ve said it should, then yes it does. If grass is green, then grass is green. Saying that companies shouldn?t be able to profit if they petition their government is Marxian. Hell, the green companies would probably be the first to falter if they weren?t allowed to petition the government. Again, as long as there is full disclosure, then there isn?t a problem. The voters themselves can decide if they want to re-elect those mingling with K Street.
Chickpea
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BTW, did you get your $50 ear drops yet, Chickpea? ;-) Hope its better soon.
I did thanks!! Feel like a new person - pain is dulled and medication making me super drousy!!
