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[PoppaJ]

Excellent discussion and insights of what drives the Trump haters...

Don’t even need to view video to tell you the reason. He is a lying, crooked, self serving, racist, grifting, rapist, unqualified, serial sexual assaulter, bigoted, whiny little b**ch.

 

[PoppaJ]

Isn’t this forum all things in Trump’s America? 2020 election is fair game. Maybe start a hate America forum for your false rants?

Why don’t you start one with the evidence of what accusations are false about trump?

 

[PoppaJ]

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Old news. POTUS has been crystal clear.

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

 

[PoppaJ]

trump fellator Baby Gaetz led a gang of some two dozen angry white men in an attempt to storm the House Hearings.

 

[Emerald Drifter]

I am a very middle of the road person who used to lean a little right. This isn't intended to justify my point, but a lot...a lot of my my far right leaning friends are tired of the shenanigans and can't see another four years of this s**t show.

This is a failed experiment, it is time to pull the plug.

"Its the economy." Justification for Trump. This comes from people who know nothing about economics. The core infrastructure for the rise of our economy actually started in 2008 under Bush and continued through Obama's administration. When Obama left office the market was at 19,500 when he took over it was 7900. Dodd Frank worked. Greenspan and Bernanke were brilliant. Employment numbers, same thing.

TRUMP HAS HAD DIDDLE s**t TO DO WITH THIS ECONOMY OR ITS GROWTH. HE HAS RIDDEN THE TRAIN. The only thing asshat was smart enough to do was leave it alone.

To ensure my credibility remains intact (haha, cant wait) , let's get on the same page about the economy. It is the American central bank aka the "Federal Reserve" that controls our economy. Presidents are puppets for the most part; all of them. Way too much to get into here, but the central bank is neither "federal" (it's a private bank), nor does it have any "reserves"; it prints notes out of thin air, or today it creates numbers on a computer screen. Excellent background here: short PDF of the book by G Edward Griffin: http://www.jrclifford.com/TM-Creature_for_Jeckyll_Island.pdf / Full book: The Creature From Jekyll Island.pdf (PDFy mirror) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

So when the Fed decides it does not want Trump any longer, he will be gone.

And to carry your argument out further, Clinton was not responsible for the economy during his tenure. But I'm sure The Three Stooges will chime in and prove me wrong.

 

[FdxUsmc]

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

More likely sleeping at midnight and awake at 5am

 

[PoppaJ]

More likely sleeping at midnight and awake at 5am

So I guess you're accusing Sondland of lying under oath about Sondland speaking to trump during that time.

As Taylor’s concerns about a quid pro quo grew more explicit, Sondland sought to put him at ease.

“Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind,” Sondland texted on Sept. 9, urging his colleagues to stop the text message exchanges.

Last week, Sondland told House investigators that he sent this message after speaking directly to Trump and that he could not speak to whether it was true.

Top U.S. envoy ties Trump directly to Ukraine quid pro quo

 

[Leader of the Banned]

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Old news. POTUS has been crystal clear.

Saying "no quid pro quos" is Trump's "I am not a crook".

 

[Leader of the Banned]

There are five hours between the last two communications during which Sondland talk to trump to get talking points. You are ignoring that trump wanted a very public announcement in exchange for funds he was withholding that had already been approved by Congress.

This is money that would have expired by Oct 1 2019. It was getting scary. Taylor for the life of him didn't understand the holdup, but things like this happen when you have a formal communication channel, and a Rudy and his henchmen channel. Trump demands that Zalensky bark like a dog and jump through a flaming hoop before the money is released. Even then, Taylor is rightfully concerned that the money still won't be released even after Zalensky meets all of the godfather's demands. After all, where do Don Vito's loyalties lie, Ukraine or Russia? I think we know the answer. Finally, a whistleblower causes the whole debacle to go public, Vito has an "oh s**t" moment, and the money is released.

Anyone can quibble about the embellishments, but the reading is clear. This is just an investigation at this point. It's not going to get better for the President.

 

[einnadica]

Listened to NPR this morning. “If you pluck a chicken one feather at a time, no one will notice. Trump has overplucked.” — Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (quoting Mussolini) after President Donald Trump’s meeting and follow up press conference with Vladimir Putin.

Trump's "base": Why don't you see Trump believes YOU are so ignorant and lacking in intellectual capacity that all he need do is repeat anything over and over and over for you to believe it.

I love my fellow human beings no matter their political persuasion. Please don't let your wounded pride/saving face (for betting on this president) stand in the way of truth. You are forgiven. We all make mistakes. Correct and move on.