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[PoppaJ]

True, because he still expects Zalensky to investigate Bidens. You could say that Zalensky basically stiffed him once he got the money.

One other thing to consider is that while most people think Trump will be impeached, few think that he will be removed. This kind of behavior is unlikely to end, especially during an election year when he is going to go full force on digging up dirt. He will see his acquittal (not sure if that's the right word) as vindication, and it is likely to embolden him. All I can say is that there is no limit on how many times a president can be subject to well-deserved impeachment proceedings.

It appears he didn’t really care about a true investigation. He just wanted the public announcement of one because he knows that would be all the conspiracy loving nutfuks in his party needed.

 

[Dennyk]

I have not read his yet, but I certainly will. I'm fairly confident that it will contain mostly information that I'm already aware of. I already know enough about what happened to think that impeachment of the President is a moral imperative. This is the official statement of grounds for impeachment.

Defend Our Democracy | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

By the way, what we are seeing now on this thread from the trumpers is an argument technique known as "firehosing". It's not worth even trying to address these folks. I believe it's what happens when a gaslighter goes berzerk with rage and desperation. It's also called the firehose of falsehood. To quote Wikipedia:

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

It appears he didn’t really care about a true investigation. He just wanted the public announcement of one because he knows that would be all the conspiracy loving nutfuks in his party needed.

Trump wanted him to publicly bark like a dog. Imagine how that would have affected his credibility in Ukraine and weakened him in the eyes of his Russian adversaries. He would be like Putin's puppet's puppet.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

That's because it's fairly obvious that from the start, Trump did engage in obstruction of justice on numerous occasions. The Mueller report did not exonerate him by any stretch. In fact, if you read between the lines, Mueller essentially said that while the constitution prohibits him from indicting a sitting president, the house might want to consider impeachment. Ukrainegate in and of itself offers more than enough grounds for impeachment in an easy to digest form. The impeachment committee could justifiably add on additional articles uncovered during the Mueller investigation. Apparently they don't think it's necessary. If the Dems have been talking about impeachment from the start, you have no one to blame but the president. What I think is absolutely shameful is that virtually no Republicans have joined in. Anyone who wants to label this impeachment process as unduly partisan should be blaming the Republicans.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

One of my biggest questions is that if Mr. Taylor has presented no incriminating information, then why is Trump trying to discredit him and labeling him as a deep state never Trumper?

 

[Leader of the Banned]

That is the funniest thing that you could say. Please tell me what you think the Dems and media have been doing since the first day president Trump got elected. Every single month since the election the media and Dems have used the word impeachment, so don't even say anything about firehosing.

I would love to hear something substantive from you. Do you have thoughts? Change my mind

 

[einnadica]

Just watched a news clip from last night covering Republican John Kennedy trashing the "avocado toast eating" elites. This from he who is an Oxford (England) educated, former college debate team member --- can't get too much more elite than that --- and at least in 2004, a DEMOCRAT (this last just like Dump). Such hypocrisy. Yes, I think Dump will be impeached and No I think he will not be removed from office. I hope I am long gone before we become the Soviet States of North America. Sorry for the melodrama but I guess I am reaching my personal breaking point.

 

[PoppaJ]

Just watched a news clip from last night covering Republican John Kennedy trashing the "avocado toast eating" elites. This from he who is an Oxford (England) educated, former college debate team member --- can't get too much more elite than that --- and at least in 2004, a DEMOCRAT (this last just like Dump). Such hypocrisy. Yes, I think Dump will be impeached and No I think he will not be removed from office. I hope I am long gone before we become the Soviet States of North America. Sorry for the melodrama but I guess I am reaching my personal breaking point.

Educated, informed voters are elitist to republicans. No need to apologize. Please continue to post your thoughts.

 

[PoppaJ]

Today like everyday in these hearings should be simple, believe a thirty three year career diplomat or a lifelong documented serial liar.

 

[PoppaJ]

Good grief, trump releases another “summary”of another call. Why not release all “full” transcripts or recordings of all calls and correspondence with Ukraine and order first hand witnesses to testify? You do that when you’re innocent.