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[Emerald Drifter]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 60 days. McConnell, Trump, Pence.

Three Amigos (playing nice), what do you think will actually happen regarding Trump? (not what you really really want). What will happen? Will the Senate vote and remove him? Will the House impeach and it dies in the Senate and Trump remain in office?

I have seen a theory bandied about that I can see happening. McConnell basically tells Trump that they have the votes to remove him. Rather than Trump allow himself to be ousted, he cuts a smoke filled room deal, resigns due to medical reasons, Pence assumes POTUS, and McConnell staves off many 2020 blue team victories. Trump gets to claim he brought America back before the dollar/economy crashes, goes down to Mar-A-Lago and gets back to being king of his world.

 

[PoppaJ]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 60 days. McConnell, Trump, Pence.

Three Amigos (playing nice), what do you think will actually happen regarding Trump? (not what you really really want). What will happen? Will the Senate vote and remove him? Will the House impeach and it dies in the Senate and Trump remain in office?

I have seen a theory bandied about that I can see happening. McConnell basically tells Trump that they have the votes to remove him. Rather than Trump allow himself to be ousted, he cuts a smoke filled room deal, resigns due to medical reasons, Pence assumes POTUS, and McConnell staves off many 2020 blue team victories. Trump gets to claim he brought America back before the dollar/economy crashes, goes down to Mar-A-Lago and gets back to being king of his world.

....and then the SDNY indicts, convicts, and imprisons. I’ll take that.

 

[PoppaJ]

Stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings. This means that they do not have subjects, bound by loyalty or blood, whose destiny they are entitled to control. Rather, in this land of liberty, it is indisputable that current and former employees of the White House work for the People of the United States, and that they take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Moreover, as citizens of the United States, current and former senior-level presidential aides have constitutional rights, including the right to free speech, and they retain these rights even after they have transitioned back into private life.”

U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson

 

[PoppaJ]

This is not a joke

"I'm curious why wasn't it done a long time ago? And also, I guess the answer to that is because now I'm president, we get things done

President Trump signs the Woman's Suffrage Centennial Coin Act.

 

[Lake View Too]

Fixed it. Thank you for the softball. That sound of really connecting with the ball!

Does it really seem like a good idea to fire the Secretary of the Navy for trying to ethically discipline his men?

 

[Bob Wells]

Does it really seem like a good idea to fire the Secretary of the Navy for trying to ethically discipline his men?

If the President wants you in lock step for all his whims, Yes Yes it is a good idea. I have and still do believe that most involved in politics lack a certain amount of ethics and that their ethics are determined by how it will affect them personally and effect the party generally. If the President basically gets a pass for all this shadiness that has occurred it will just get worse in the future because a new set of ethics and morals has been established for the "Ruling Class". IMO if the impeachment fails, which I believe it will, whoever is elected President will not be held to any recognizable standard and it will be us the voters fault.

 

[Lake View Too]

If the President wants you in lock step for all his whims, Yes Yes it is a good idea. I have and still do believe that most involved in politics lack a certain amount of ethics and that their ethics are determined by how it will affect them personally and effect the party generally. If the President basically gets a pass for all this shadiness that has occurred it will just get worse in the future because a new set of ethics and morals has been established for the "Ruling Class". IMO if the impeachment fails, which I believe it will, whoever is elected President will not be held to any recognizable standard and it will be us the voters fault.

I’m not sure you understand what I was saying. The Secretary of the Navy was fired because he felt like it was necessary to discipline one of his men. The president said it wasn’t necessary for this man to be discipline. If it’s left up to this president or any other president to decide the discipline or lack of discipline that is enforced in the military, we have the complete unraveling of unity it our armed forces.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I myself have often wondered why we didn't have a 94th anniversary of women's suffrage coin back in 2013.

Trump: Why Wasn’t 100th Anniversary of Women’s Suffrage Observed ‘Years Ago?’

After working his way through the prepared remarks, Trump interjected with his own riff. “They’ve been working on this for years and years,” he said, suddenly wondering, “And I’m curious, why wasn’t it done a long time ago, and also — well, I guess the answer to that is because now I’m president, and we get things done. We get a lot of things done that nobody else got done.”

 

[einnadica]

Breaking point (mine) met last week. Yes, by all means, Trump base, support the man. Don't hold him to a higher standard or any standard at all. When the economy tanks, and it will, when Russia, Iran and China interfere in U.S. elections, and they will, when the Affordable Care Act (a SOCIAList program) is repealed without a replacement, when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, food stamps, free or low-cost health clinics/screenings (all SOCIAList programs) are plundered or dissolved, when Worker's Comp (another SOCIAList program) ceases to exist, when so many additional places around the world will not welcome Americans, when you can't afford to help yourself or your kids graduate from high school (another SOCIAList program - education K-12 for the masses) never mind help them with the $$$$$$ to go to college, when your parents and or children have to wear face masks to (hardly) protect against particulate matter in the air, when there's lead, poop and chromium hexavalent in the water the only thing left in the US will be a massive military controlled not by vetted military leaders but by a misinformed, misguided (being nice) person (being nicer still) with narcissist and sociopathic characteristics whose aim appears to be to rule the world and the people in it alongside his idol Vlad Putin. In the end (and yes, undeterred this path tilts us toward the beginning of the end) the joke's on Trump. Even though Trump may effectively destroy what we, as Americans, have taken so for granted, Putin does not share. Russia does not share. PERIOD. Not voting to impeach and remove this subversive, "bad actor" Trump assures our fate as a considerably less free people. I'll be long dead, what about you?

 

[Bob Wells]

I’m not sure you understand what I was saying. The Secretary of the Navy was fired because he felt like it was necessary to discipline one of his men. The president said it wasn’t necessary for this man to be discipline. If it’s left up to this president or any other president to decide the discipline or lack of discipline that is enforced in the military, we have the complete unraveling of unity it our armed forces.

I agree with you. I see I just went on a rabbit trail.