Wake up America

[Smiling JOe]

skunky, you didn't watch the video, did you?

jelly bean. don't let us scare you off. your post is interesting. we can all learn from something like that. like, how hate, fear and bigotry effects our society, politics and wars. I wonder who developed this content? it stinks of the current administration. peee-ewww!!

I watched the video, but I don't recall it being so "hate" oriented. Without trying to understand opposing views, how can we have a real opinion?

The idea of not watching the video reminds me of the time when Southern Baptist Leaders telling their preachers to tell the congregations to protest the movie, "The Last Temptation of Christ." My question what head honcho in the Southern Baptist Convention actually watched the film in order to have this opinion? Probably no one.

Yes, this video clip has a slant, and you will probably not like it, but it may present new ideas to an opposing opinion, which makes you ask a new question, and perhaps end up opening questions regarding war from the other side. You never know, and without opposing viewpoints and the attempt to understand others points of view, we will never grow.

Tootsie, I am not pointing fingers at you. Writing this makes me also question my on quick snap reactions to others' view points, so as much as anything, I am looking in the mirror. ;-) I keep forgetting that Dale Carnegie rule: "First seek to understand, then be understood."

 

[30A Skunkape]

skunky, you didn't watch the video, did you?

jelly bean. don't let us scare you off. your post is interesting. we can all learn from something like that. like, how hate, fear and bigotry effects our society, politics and wars. I wonder who developed this content? it stinks of the current administration. peee-ewww!!

No, I didn't even expand the window the link appeared in;I just saw a map of the USA with the jihad hotspots noted ala the SPLC hate group map.:roll:

 

[Teresa]

I watched the video, but I don't recall it being so "hate" oriented. Without trying to understand opposing views, how can we have a real opinion?

The idea of not watching the video reminds me of the time when Southern Baptist Leaders telling their preachers to tell the congregations to protest the movie, "The Last Temptation of Christ." My question what head honcho in the Southern Baptist Convention actually watched the film in order to have this opinion? Probably no one.

Yes, this video clip has a slant, and you will probably not like it, but it may present new ideas to an opposing opinion, which makes you ask a new question, and perhaps end up opening questions regarding war from the other side. You never know, and without opposing viewpoints and the attempt to understand others points of view, we will never grow.

Tootsie, I am not pointing fingers at you. Writing this makes me also question my on quick snap reactions to others' view points, so as much as anything, I am looking in the mirror. ;-) I keep forgetting that Dale Carnegie rule: "First seek to understand, then be understood."

I agree with you SJ, as far as opening questions and listening to other viewpoints. That is what I meant by this thread being "interesting". But, I still feel that underneath this kind of presentation is something very wrong. maybe hate or bigotry is too strong. maybe there is something to learn and gain from it. but, it doesn't smell good to me, at all.

 

[Smiling JOe]

Tootsie, I think you would not like the message, but sometimes you have to step back from it emotionally, and try to debate the subject, thereby teaching and learning simultaneously. ;-)

 

[Teresa]

Tootsie, I think you would not like the message, but sometimes you have to step back from it emotionally, and try to debate the subject, thereby teaching and learning simultaneously. ;-)

absolutely! if only we all interacted on that level on all matters! if only. then world peace could certainly be achieved.

so, how do we teach ourselves to debate, teach and learn, and require that our leaders have this important ability? wouldn't it be a breath of fresh air if we saw our congress debating, teaching and learning (trying to bring about long term solutions) without the republican v. democrat emotional and political baggage? if only!

 

[Smiling JOe]

so, how do we teach ourselves to debate, teach and learn, and require that our leaders have this important ability?

I think we have to lead by example -- don't wait on gov't "leaders" to lead. They are too busy trying to get re-elected and following popularity polls. We lead our future generations by our actions. They are really good at doing what we adults do. When our children live their entire life leading, we will one day have leaders in our gov't. I think it is fairly easy to do. We just have to start with ourselves and know that we will not see the results for another 30-40 years. That is more like the old school Japanese long term thought, to which we are not accustomed, but it could be taught each day when we look in the mirror.

 

[Teresa]

yes, and I believe that a well rounded education (including the knowledge and appreciation of the world beyond your city and state and country) with a focus on being a citizen of the world, is certainly key. maria montessori's entire philosophy of education for children has its roots and aim at the achievement of world peace. she knew it would have to start with a young mind.

 

[30A Skunkape]

yes, and I believe that a well rounded education (including the knowledge and appreciation of the world beyond your city and state and country) with a focus on being a citizen of the world, is certainly key. maria montessori's entire philosophy of education for children has its roots and aim at the achievement of world peace. she knew it would have to start with a young mind.

She was right

 

[jelly bean]

I am glad this thread has started a debate. I just feel we need to wake up in this country. Everyone wants to point fingers. We are the only ones that can bring this country back!!!! Not Hillary! Bush!! Obama!!! They are politicians with motives! We need to take this country back. If you think we are not at war, wake up. If you think this is all George Bush, wake up! If you think one of the next presidents will fix our problems, wake up! We are the only ones that can make the change.

 

[30A Skunkape]

I am glad this thread has started a debate. I just feel we need to wake up in this country. Everyone wants to point fingers. We are the only ones that can bring this country back!!!! Not Hillary! Bush!! Obama!!! They are politicians with motives! We need to take this country back. If you think we are not at war, wake up. If you think this is all George Bush, wake up! If you think one of the next presidents will fix our problems, wake up! We are the only ones that can make the change.

I like it! So, you have a 2 million hit/month soapbox-what do we do to fix the problems