A return to civility

[Miss Kitty]

Yes, we changed it to PSTFU. Thank you.
Think we should make it, PSTFUTU?

You're welcome! You are SO civil!!!

 

[DuneAHH]

Yes, we changed it to PSTFU. Thank you.
Think we should make it, PSTFUTU?

love this...TUVM!! :rofl::rofl:

 

[Beach Runner]

Yes, we changed it to PSTFU. Thank you.
Think we should make it, PSTFUTU?

 

[scooterbug44]

And people can study for IQ tests through reading and problem or puzzle solving. Regardless, no matter how much I trained, I would not be able to beat Deion Sanders in a foot race (IQ test is another matter). It would be silly to note that my shorter stride and less impressive physique made the foot race biased.

Which is why an IQ test isn't a good measure!

No, but you could improve by training and beat someone of similar natural athletic ability.

Deion would beat you hands down in an intelligence test too. He's earned tens of millions of dollars playing multiple pro sports and parlayed his athletic knowledge and noteriety into a variety of fields & professions including broadcasting, music, writing, and various charities.

 

[6thGen]

Which is why an IQ test isn't a good measure!

No, but you could improve by training and beat someone of similar natural athletic ability.

So, let me get this straight, we should only measure people's intelligence if they are similar? It's not fair for African Americans to compete with Whitey? Nah, that's not racist.

Deion would beat you hands down in an intelligence test too. He's earned tens of millions of dollars playing multiple pro sports and parlayed his athletic knowledge and noteriety into a variety of fields & professions including broadcasting, music, writing, and various charities.

No, he wouldn't. The results would be similar to the foot race, with a different victor.

 

[scooterbug44]

No, what I said is that if you took 2 people, regardless of race, who had the same IQ and one was then trained/prepped for an IQ test and one wasn't - you would get 2 different scores ......... for the same IQ.

Same as if you took two people, regardless of race, who had the same athletic ability and one was then trained/prepped for a foot race and one wasn't, you would get 2 different times............for the same ability level.

If you seriously think your mental abilities are as exceptional as Deion's athletic abilities, you would definitely score quite poorly on the intelligence test - they take points off if you are severely delusional!!!

 

[6thGen]

No, what I said is that if you took 2 people, regardless of race, who had the same IQ and one was then trained/prepped for an IQ test and one wasn't - you would get 2 different scores ......... for the same IQ.

Same as if you took two people, regardless of race, who had the same athletic ability and one was then trained/prepped for a foot race and one wasn't, you would get 2 different times............for the same ability level.

If you seriously think your mental abilities are as exceptional as Deion's athletic abilities, you would definitely score quite poorly on the intelligence test - they take points off if you are severely delusional!!!

Again, you state that everyone should compete with their level and everything should be fair. It may work for youth soccer leagues, but not in the real world. People aren?t special just for being, and we shouldn?t make excuses for others because they lack certain capabilities. I blame Mr. Rogers. Tell you what, scooterbug, why don?t you and I take IQ tests and compare results? To be fair, you have to pass four nine?s before you hit another number in my percentile.

 

[scooterbug44]

Again, you state that everyone should compete with their level and everything should be fair. It may work for youth soccer leagues, but not in the real world. People aren?t special just for being, and we shouldn?t make excuses for others because they lack certain capabilities. I blame Mr. Rogers. Tell you what, scooterbug, why don?t you and I take IQ tests and compare results? To be fair, you have to pass four nine?s before you hit another number in my percentile.

I'm not saying we make exceptions, just that we compare similar things. I never said people were special just for being or any of these other ideas you are erroneously attributing to me. You think certain groups are lacking certain capabilities and I think they have other capabilities and can't be pigeonholed.

Why would I want to take and compare IQ tests when it has been determined they aren't a good measure of intelligence?

I'd say the best test of our respective intelligences is that you think you're always right and are smarter than 99.99% of the population based on a flawed test, while I know that I will always have a lot to learn and am frequently wrong!

 

[Bob]

Again, you state that everyone should compete with their level and everything should be fair. It may work for youth soccer leagues, but not in the real world. People aren?t special just for being, and we shouldn?t make excuses for others because they lack certain capabilities. I blame Mr. Rogers. Tell you what, scooterbug, why don?t you and I take IQ tests and compare results? To be fair, you have to pass four nine?s before you hit another number in my percentile.

When was that percentile acertained, and did your parents foot the bill?

 

[Bob]

No, I said that upbringing is more responsible than IQ. Bob said it was IQ. I was refuting this statement by scooterbug "Yes, I do! There are scientifically quantifiable differences between the sexes and different races. These do not however, effect one's overall intelligence or ability." And it wasn't a hypothesis, it was a fact. Until someone comes up with a better way to measure IQ, all we have is what is the established and accepted tool.

I said change was more likely with IQ. Read my posts if you're to be accurate. Manners and civility are taught. I does not presuppose lower IQs, minorities, or poor folks can't learn manners at an early age, and it's not an open invitation for you 6thGen to start hammering on blacks. Let's have a thread about reading comprehension.