So who's everyone supporting for 2008?

[Kurt]

I plan to set an example for more efficient government by eliminating the middle man and simply voting directly for my favorite corporation/special interest/lobbyist as a write in.

 

[Cheering472]

I plan to set an example for more efficient government by eliminating the middle man and simply voting directly for my favorite corporation/special interest/lobbyist as a write in.

Well it is corporate America so that makes sense. Then we won't need the politicians and won't have to worry about the Golden Fleece retirement system for them either. Everyone wins.

 

[6thGen]

I have always exercised my voting privilege, but here lately, I am beginning to wonder why I bother. On so many levels, I see a blending of the two parties, at least in public office. On the street, there is much difference between people with strong Dem or Rep ties. However, today, in order to get elected, one must lean rather straight up down the middle, or slightly to the left of center, and that is why Republicans tend to think that all of the Republican candidates don't lean far enough right. The average joe Republicans have two choices: 1) vote Republican because the avg joe Rep agrees more with the Rep than the Dem., or 2) vote Democrat, because having a Democrat in office just might piss off enough Republicans to raise hell and it will also help keep the Dems in check.

I dislike the ever-growing arms of Gov't, and would like to see it govern itself a little better.

I don't vote in the primary because in Florida, I would have to select a party to join, and I don't think either of those parties are worthy on a whole.

SJ,
The GOP wins when it runs far right, but it doesn't have the balls to do so. Let's look at since 1980. Reagan ran pretty far right and won in landslides in 80 and 84. Bush ran as Reagan's successor, but not as far right and won in 88, then when he moved towards the center, and lost in 92. Dole was playing to the middle and lost in 96. Bush leaned towards the middle with compassionate conservatism and barely won in 2000 and won in a close race in 2004. This goes to Congress as well, sweeping with the Contract With America, then losing when the GOP couldn't stop spending. I could go on, but you should see something of a trend.

 

[Kurt]

Well it is corporate America so that makes sense. Then we won't need the politicians and won't have to worry about the Golden Fleece retirement system for them either. Everyone wins.

Politicians and the illusion of government are a vital distraction for those who actually run the country.

Funny that people think distractions are things like cigars, flag burning, and gay marriage.

 

[6thGen]

I didn't say that Bush was unbeatable. (Gore beat him after all) My comment addressed your assigning blame to the Dems for his getting elected this last time by not putting out a better candidate. What put him over the top in votes was the turn out for family values. It wasn't the Dems weak choice but Bush manipulating his base that got the turnout to put him over the top. I know Dems pander to churches, but they don't have influence over the religious right, Bush did. Reread the post.

No, Gore didn't. Sorry you aren't familiar with the Constitution. And no sh** Bush has influence of the RR. If it was the RL you might have added something insightful. But alas...

Furthermore...
Are you kidding? The problem is that too many people vote??? Voter turnout is low considering our population. You brought this thread up as evidence that people are more interested in tv shows than the election. One of the people you are referencing to in this paragraph is Kitty's own sweet daughter, so please tread very carefully. You were able to bait her into this discussion and then draw her into a reality show post. By the way her daughter seems very excited about the upcoming election in her post prior to the one you reference. So I don't think that she is more interested in "stupid reality shows" than the election. She seems to be a very bright girl and able to make a decision while still watching TV. Maybe it comes from being open minded. Give it a try and have a nice day.

No, I'm not kidding. I brought this up because in every other thread, the peanut gallery is posting that they can't wait for 2008, to get someone else in office. I was curious as to who that someone else was. I wasn't trying to bait anyone in particular, but I'd love to hear why people support Obama other than being photogenic, a minority candidate and able to craft a sentence. My response about reality TV was directed at you, Cheering, since it wasn't important for you to be well read on the subject until the last minute.

 

[BeachSiO2]

Politicians and the illusion of government are a vital distraction for those who actually run the country.

Funny that people think distractions are things like cigars, flag burning, and gay marriage.

Which leads back to the question that I asked in a previous post. Why would we expect any highly intelligent, qualified person to want to subject themselves to the daily abuse. It would make more sense to work hard to have someone elected that would do your bidding, or at least support your ideals and stay out of the process.

The smartest people are not typically willing to wake up every morning and go to a job where they are seldom appreciated and only their faults are shown to them, more often then not in a public way. If this was any private job, the employee would probably have justification for a hostile workplace lawsuit. Like I said earlier, I don't see how it's worth it to be a public servant, and am not surprised that many decisons are lesser of two evil votes.

In a national election, I am looking at donor rolls and campaign participants to decide which "backers" are more qualified to do the job, or which ones would support those ideals that I think are important.

 

[Smiling JOe]

I plan to set an example for more efficient government by eliminating the middle man and simply voting directly for my favorite corporation/special interest/lobbyist as a write in.

In that case, let's keep this election in the family, and vote for my brother-in-law. :funn:

 

[Bob]

He'll win all the blue states!

 

[Bob]

SJ,
The GOP wins when it runs far right, but it doesn't have the balls to do so. Let's look at since 1980. Reagan ran pretty far right and won in landslides in 80 and 84. Bush ran as Reagan's successor, but not as far right and won in 88, then when he moved towards the center, and lost in 92. Dole was playing to the middle and lost in 96. Bush leaned towards the middle with compassionate conservatism and barely won in 2000 and won in a close race in 2004. This goes to Congress as well, sweeping with the Contract With America, then losing when the GOP couldn't stop spending. I could go on, but you should see something of a trend.

Bush lost the last time out because of Perot. "Read my lips" anger did not turn Repubs into Dems. Dole looked horrible on TV, which is the ultimate sin in politics. State by state voting results for '04 and '00 are virtually the same, reflecting two elections with two weak candidates.

 

[BeachSiO2]

No, Gore didn't. Sorry you aren't familiar with the Constitution. And no sh** Bush has influence of the RR. If it was the RL you might have added something insightful. But alas...

Interesting point and one I always think of when people start talking about spreading democracy around the world- our own President is not elected democratically.