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What makes a terrorist?

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I hesitate to bring this up, because I know you will continue to avoid the one simple question I asked, as you have continued to do. I think we could reach a consensus that drunk driving and tired driving are root causes of accidents between the hours of 11pm and 4am. Following your logic, they are not root causes since everyone that drives tired or drunk isn?t involved in an accident, since every accident wasn?t caused by someone tired or drunk, since eliminating drunk driving and tired driving would not eliminate vehicular accents between 11pm and 4am, and since it doesn?t explain why people drink or what makes them tired. Therefore, and this is key, drunkenness and lack of sleep are not responsible for accidents between 11pm and 4am.
 
why have the arabs never solved the issue of the palestinian refugee problem? because it would not suit their purpose of using this scam problem to scapegoat israel.

everyone in the middle east is open about this. it's only uneducated people in the west who refuse to acknowledge it even though the arab council is fairly open about it. only their approved propaganda spouts conflicting fallacies about the "isreali occupiers". nobody believes that except their palestinian pawns and the westerners! and the west seems to accept it as an excuse for terrorism, so why not keep using it?

isreal is still coping with the issue of resolving the problems of absorbing tens of millions of jewish refugees each year into their very small country somehow. providing them with housing, food, education, job training and money. in the last 5 years the country's population doubled. despite the poverty and difficulties of having a country that is entirely made up of first and second generation refugees, most exiled from their arab homes and lands or escaped concentration camps. they have focused all their energies on building and educating. in fact, 1 in 10 isrealis has written and registered a patent for technological advances. windows, voicemail, your cell phone, aol instant messenger, all invented in isreal, by isrealis.

those arabs who make up 20% of israel's population are also eligible for those social programs and benefits. in addition, they have a disproportionate representation in the isreal knesset to ensure their rights.

so, why is that with the ghettoization of palestinians in jordan and syria, they never revolt in those countries? because they simply get mowed down by the arab govts. their is NO space for dissention there.

why does it happen in isreal? because isreal allows them more freedoms than those arab countries and because the arab council funds it and rewards it. all suicide bombers are given HUGE cash awards, homes and cars. it pays to be a murderer and a criminal in the palestinian territories.

even after isreal pulled out of gaza and, in the process, destroying over 100 isreali generational farms, there has not been ONE DAY that the palestinians haven't shot rockets into isreali homes and schools. EVERY SINGLE DAY. you're welcome.

you NEVER hear about the nursery schools that are bombed by the PLO EVERYDAY on our news. the west is so ignorant. they don't understand that what makes terrorists is facism and hate. they are so patronizing about the arabic culture, they don't realize that there is a different view on what creates a level of respect.

i will tell you that while the arabs hate isreal. they respect them. isreal knows how to engage them in a culturally appropriate way. they MOCK america and europe. they know we will believe any crap they feed us.

ignorance makes terrorists. and pacifism. the pacifism required to allow facist, fundamentalist extremist to treat violence as a "cultural right". and the ignorance required to insist that there is some kind of equality in a terrorist's attack of defenseless civilians and a country's military's attempt to defend their people. that's what it takes to make terrorism grow.
 
I hesitate to bring this up, because I know you will continue to avoid the one simple question I asked, as you have continued to do. I think we could reach a consensus that drunk driving and tired driving are root causes of accidents between the hours of 11pm and 4am. Following your logic, they are not root causes since everyone that drives tired or drunk isn?t involved in an accident, since every accident wasn?t caused by someone tired or drunk, since eliminating drunk driving and tired driving would not eliminate vehicular accents between 11pm and 4am, and since it doesn?t explain why people drink or what makes them tired. Therefore, and this is key, drunkenness and lack of sleep are not responsible for accidents between 11pm and 4am.

No this is the real key ? Drunkeness and lack of sleep are responsible for some accidents between 11pm and 4am. But they do not represent the most basic reason for a vast majority or all accidents and therefore do not qualify as the ?root causes?.

You seem to be under the impression that simply generating a list of common factors will somehow arrive at the root causes.

Variable A and/or Variable B and/or Variable C = Outcome

People hit a lot of deer at night. Many accidents between 11pm and 4am are caused simply by impaired vision because of the darkness, and as always (regardless of the time of day) many accidents are simply the result of bad weather conditions.

Drunk Driving and/or Tiredness and/or Hitting Deer and/or Visual Impairment due to Darkness and/or Bad Weather = the ?root causes? of accidents between 11 pm and 4 am???

Uh, no ?these are simply a list of common, or contributing factors.

A true root cause will be:

Variable A = Outcome

And multiple ?root causes? will be:

Variable A + Variable B + Variable C = Outcome

The primary difference being that the elimination of the ?root cause? or one of the multiple ?root causes? will result in a different outcome.



It is interesting to note how adding a qualifier to your ?outcome? can change the relationship of the ?variables? to it.

The following are probably true:

Drunk Driving is the root cause of accidents between 11pm and 4am within a 5 mile radius of nightclubs.

Tiredness is a root cause of accidents between 11pm and 4 am in Saudi Arabia, (where no one drinks, it doesn?t rain much, and there aren?t any deer to hit.)

However if you define your outcome broadly, then you must accept the possibility that no root cause or causes can be identified that will suffice.

There isn?t necessarily a ?root cause? for every given situation.

Likewise Terrorism is probably too broad a term to generate any identifiable ?root cause?. And it certainly isn?t ?civil and political oppression? since this is absent from far too many examples.

Perhaps you ought to consider asking the following questions:

What is the root cause of Palestinian terrorism?
What is the root cause of terrorism in support of a Nationalist separatism movement?
What is the root cause of social-revolutionary terrorism in Latin America?
What is the root cause of terrorism by organized crime?
What is the root cause of state sponsored terrorism?
Etc.

You may have better luck convincing someone that ?civil and political oppression? is one of the root causes of one of these more specific examples.


 
Is this a word problem? I am starting to get that pit in my stomach and wanting to call a math tutor. :shock:
 
Is this a word problem? I am starting to get that pit in my stomach and wanting to call a math tutor. :shock:

Remember that scene in Ferris Bueller when the kid was passed out on his desk when Stein was talking about "something-d-o-o-economics"? That was me reading that, minus the puddle of drool.
 
Remember that scene in Ferris Bueller when the kid was passed out on his desk when Stein was talking about "something-d-o-o-economics"? That was me reading that, minus the puddle of drool.

You?ve seemed a little confused from page one.

Perhaps you ought to just leave these issues to the intellectual big boys.
 
You?ve seemed a little confused from page one.

Perhaps you ought to just leave these issues to the intellectual big boys.

No, I'm just tired of your pissing contest of splitting hairs once the crux of the argument has been demonstrated. Like I said, it's like Clinton asking the prosecutor to define the meaning of the word "is".
 
No, I'm just tired of your pissing contest of splitting hairs once the crux of the argument has been demonstrated. Like I said, it's like Clinton asking the prosecutor to define the meaning of the word "is".

Unfortunately for you, splitting hairs is what wins arguments.

Sorry your little house of cards based on poor arguments and ill-defined logic came crashing down.

 
Unfortunately for you, splitting hairs is what wins arguments.

Sorry your little house of cards based on poor arguments and ill-defined logic came crashing down.


Sorry that your self esteem depends on declaring yourself the winner of internet arguments and thinking that you've proved yourself to people who don't know you under an assumed name against people that you don't know and who don't take you seriously.
 
Sorry that your self esteem depends on declaring yourself the winner of internet arguments and thinking that you've proved yourself to people who don't know you under an assumed name against people that you don't know and who don't take you seriously.

Wait a minute here busterGen! Some of us do know Uncle Timmy. Do you know anyone on this board? YOU are the one hiding behind a "name", unless your first name is 6th and the last name is Gen. Play fair!!!
 
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