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Are our resident Forever Trumpers delayed this evening waiting on their talking points?
Sadly, I think that they feel this is the day that gets Trump completely off the hook, if you can believe that!:floor:

Sometimes non-verbal communication is the best.

 
No surprise, we knew this all along.

'It doesn't matter': House Republicans embrace 'quid pro quo'

After saying they could not accept a quid pro quo, House Republicans say it no longer matters if President Trump tied $400 million in military aid earmarked for Ukraine to Kyiv agreeing to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden.

The evolving Republican position on impeachment comes as key witnesses testify publicly about allegations Trump abused his power in dealings with Ukraine, with some government officials lending credibility to accusations by House Democrats that the president demanded a quid pro quo of Kyiv. When the claims first surfaced in a whistleblower complaint, Republicans said that, if true, they might be forced to consider impeaching Trump.

That's off.
 
Republicans, “It’s is not extortion because the Ukrainians didn’t realize they were being extorted.”

Phone Scammers everywhere, “Praise Jesus for Republicans!”
 
Nunes lied again claiming the accused during the Spanish Inquisition were treated better because they could face their accuser. History.com says he’s lying, but we knew that because lying is all he has.
Those accused of heresy were forced to testify. If the heretic did not confess, torture and execution were inescapable. Heretics weren’t allowed to face accusers, received no counsel, and were often victims of false accusations.
https://www.history.com/topics/religion/inquisition
 
Teflon Don. Mueller. Nada. Ukraine. Nada. The State of NY will get his tax returns and show how little taxes he has paid, who he has paid off, bankruptcy bail outs etc. Nada.

I truly think that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it. He looks like he is toast, but the Senate will note vote impeachment.

The question is, does impeachment help Dems election wise at a state election level? I think so, but I do not see the benefit for the White House race. Unfortunately I think Cheeto gets reelected. Amazing.
 
Teflon Don. Mueller. Nada. Ukraine. Nada. The State of NY will get his tax returns and show how little taxes he has paid, who he has paid off, bankruptcy bail outs etc. Nada.

I truly think that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it. He looks like he is toast, but the Senate will note vote impeachment.

The question is, does impeachment help Dems election wise at a state election level? I think so, but I do not see the benefit for the White House race. Unfortunately I think Cheeto gets reelected. Amazing.

He could get reelected, but I don't think impeachment will hurt the Dems in the Presidential election even without removal. I do think that if they either vote not to impeach, or fail at the impeachment vote, then that will hurt their chances at the presidency.
 
Wow.@RepMikeTurner: "Mr. Sondland, let's be clear: no one on this planet—not Donald Trump, Rudy Guiliani, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo—no one told you aid was tied to political investigations, is that correct."

Gordon Sondland: "That's correct."

Game over.
 
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