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Laura Cooper, a deputy assistant secretary of defense, testified Wednesday that her staff received indications Ukraine may have been aware that U.S. aid was being withheld as early as August or even July 25 -- the date of President Trump's momentous phone call with Ukraine's leader, in which the president mentioned an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden's dealings there.

At the same time, Cooper said she was under the impression the aid was restricted simply due to the Trump administration's concerns over "corruption" in Ukraine. Cooper testified she was never provided any other explanation for the hold, though others have asserted it was tied to the effort to extract an investigation of the Bidens.

Similarly, top State Department official David Hale, sitting alongside Cooper, testified that he was unaware of any "nefarious" motive by the Trump administration in withholding the aid. He said financial assistance to several other countries was withheld as well.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Laura Cooper, a deputy assistant secretary of defense, testified Wednesday that her staff received indications Ukraine may have been aware that U.S. aid was being withheld as early as August or even July 25 -- the date of President Trump's momentous phone call with Ukraine's leader, in which the president mentioned an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden's dealings there.

At the same time, Cooper said she was under the impression the aid was restricted simply due to the Trump administration's concerns over "corruption" in Ukraine. Cooper testified she was never provided any other explanation for the hold, though others have asserted it was tied to the effort to extract an investigation of the Bidens.

Similarly, top State Department official David Hale, sitting alongside Cooper, testified that he was unaware of any "nefarious" motive by the Trump administration in withholding the aid. He said financial assistance to several other countries was withheld as well.

They know better now! Yes, at the time they were unaware of any "nefarious motives". Today EVERYBODY knows!!!

 

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They know better now! Yes, at the time they were unaware of any "nefarious motives". Today EVERYBODY knows!!!

She testified today.

 

[Emerald Drifter]

The day the whistleblower who we pretend we dont know met President Barry Soetoro.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

She testified today.

I'll explain it yet again. She testified about what her thoughts were months ago. No one is expected in testimony to give their evolving views on whether or not there was bribery knowing what they know now, unless perhaps they were a legal expert or constitutional scholar. That's what this whole impeachment is about. It's about the house making a judgement about whether there were abuses of power, bribery, extortion, quid pro quo and others by the president. It is not to be expected of fact witnesses who were in the dark at the time of our president's impeachable offenses. The bogus explanation that the hold up was due to the concern with corruption isn't likely to fly when you total up all the evidence and testimony. It's not like fact witnesses, oblivious to Trump's corrupt intent, can somehow get him off the hook.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

The day the whistleblower who we pretend we dont know met President Barry Soetoro.

Well that just bolsters the case for Trump's innocence, right?

 

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In blockbuster testimony hours earlier, Sondland tied top Trump administration officials to a “potential quid pro quo” involving U.S. military aid to Ukraine and investigations desired by the president, but he acknowledged under cross-examination from Republicans that he never heard that from Trump -- saying he was making presumptions and the president expressly rejected any such arrangement.

 

[Emerald Drifter]

The question is, does impeachment help Dems election wise at a state election level? I think so, but I do not see the benefit for the White House race. Unfortunately I think Cheeto gets reelected. Amazing.

The "impeachment" is to feed red meat to the rabid Democrats, mainly to keep them engergized (less demoralized) and so they have a little trophy that they can be proud of and share with their fellow crazies. Kind of like the mentality of 6 year old coed flag football where everybody gets a trophy win or lose.

As for helping at the state level? This has been Trump's to lose, and I think its 50/50 at best. He has not built the wall, immigration numbers are higher than when Barry Soetoro was POTUS, and we don't know what this economy/currency will do between now and a year from now. Couple that with the massive, organized illegal immigrant voter registration going on I predict that Florida, Georgia, NC, maybeeeee Texas could go blue in 2020. Plus, I still think a more centrist blue player will jump in by February to grab the nomination.

My 2 cents

 

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Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President and current Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, had claimed earlier this year that he did not father a child with an Arkansas woman while he was living with the widow of his deceased brother. Biden even agreed to take a DNA test to prove that he was not the father.

The results from the DNA test were released on Wednesday, and they reportedly show that Biden is the father of the child.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

In blockbuster testimony hours earlier, Sondland tied top Trump administration officials to a “potential quid pro quo” involving U.S. military aid to Ukraine and investigations desired by the president, but he acknowledged under cross-examination from Republicans that he never heard that from Trump -- saying he was making presumptions and the president expressly rejected any such arrangement.

Right, and when you take all the information from all the different sources, including the President himself, there is no need to presume. Sondland did way more to hurt Trump's case than to help it.